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A universal time dragon ball
A universal time dragon ball












a universal time dragon ball

18 was exactly as strong as she ever was which considering as how completely she failed against Cell, fighting Buu would have been a complete joke. If this wasn't the case then Piccolo wouldn't have been able to overpower 17.

a universal time dragon ball

  • From what I can tell 17 and 18's unlimited energy means that they don't fatigue rather than being able to put colossal power into their techniques.
  • Does #18 still have her unlimited ki in this saga? She could've put up a fight against Buu but instead she apparently listens to her much weaker husband and starts running away with their daughter.
  • Or would you have been happier if they all died? Regardless, Vegeta "could" have grabbed everyone (or grabbed at least trunks) and then Supreme Kai would've met them halfway. He flew down to grab Hercule and Dende while Vegeta seemingly stayed en route to the others (though he was still behind Goku when he grabbed Hercule and Dende).
  • Goku's IT/flight speed wouldn't have been fast enough for him to concentrate grab them AND leave the planet.
  • Vegeta who doesn't have instant transmission couldn't snatch anyone and thus doesn't get heat here. Gohan was the most powerful person in the universe at the time and saving him should have been priority one.
  • He receives a lot of crap because, dumb luck and dragon balls aside, he grabbed the wrong people.
  • He actually swooped down and grabbed them while Vegeta seemingly stayed en route to the kids and Piccolo.
  • Vegeta didn't grab anyone because he didn't have the technique and couldn't reach them in time.
  • As I recall, Goku grabbed Hercule and Dende with Instant Transmission.
  • Plus, Goku probably figured he could wish them all back with the Dragonballs.

    a universal time dragon ball

    If they did, Vegeta would've grabbed one or two of them. IIRC Goku grabbed Hercule and Dende and the Supreme Kai saved him and Vegeta via instantaneous movement (which works better than Goku's IT). Goku gets a lot of heat for not saving Gohan, Goten, Piccolo and Trunks.Alternatively, it could be that, seeing as it's a magical ability, Gohan wouldn't be able to stop it, while Babidi, being a magician and a sworn enemy of the Supreme Kai, would not only be able to stop such an attack but would have every reason to expect it in advance and stop it from working on himself or his minions.They may be physically stronger than anything in the known universe, but their logical thinking patterns leave much to be desired. Grabbing the Idiot Ball with all their might is pretty much a running thing the characters do in this show.If the Supreme Kai (Kaioshin) has the ability to immobilize someone as strong as Gohan in his SSJ2 form, why didn't he try to do the same thing to Dabura, or Pipi, or Yakon for that matter?.At that point it's easy to put two and two together. Godly ki can't be sensed by those without it, a fact that would no doubt be among Kami's memories. The lack of a ki signature probably tipped him off, too.














    A universal time dragon ball